tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post6116959001060857005..comments2023-12-07T03:58:37.749-08:00Comments on Riding the Wet Coast: Downtown East Side, Vancouver's dark side:Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-91473695001571443822009-10-27T08:07:26.121-07:002009-10-27T08:07:26.121-07:00Lance:
The Main & Hastings area didn't se...<b>Lance:</b><br /><br />The Main & Hastings area didn't seem as bad as before. Maybe it was the rain that kept them away. I notice that with the greater Police presence, "They" have moved into the alleyways of the West end, and in the Lanes closer to the downtown core. The next time you come up to Vancouver, we will take our bikes and do a "lane" tour. We'll wear shoddy leather jackets, that'll keep them away<br /><br /><b>cpa3485:</b><br /><br />The truly homeless live under the overhangs of abandoned business's, sleeping on cardboard with their life's possessions in a grocery cart. It is really hard to point your camera at them to snap a photo.<br /> There are bad people everywhere. And all the scammers and con men are people that look just like you and me and we may even be friends with some of them without knowing<br /><br /><b>Sharon:</b><br /><br />It's a deal. Fly to Vancouver, as long as I have "extra" wheels you are welcome to use it. My super scooter X500Ri is just sitting there waiting to be ridden.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-87008045544619430262009-10-27T04:02:26.912-07:002009-10-27T04:02:26.912-07:00Bob,
I am coming to Vancouver and taking you up o...Bob,<br /><br />I am coming to Vancouver and taking you up on your offer! Thanks.Sojourner's Moto Taleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02235661849993752840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-58971634248427097772009-10-26T06:56:38.238-07:002009-10-26T06:56:38.238-07:00I have thought and thought about this post. I gues...I have thought and thought about this post. I guess there are bad people everywhere. Sometimes around here I wonder about the potentially safer places.<br />Many people around here arm themselves and just seem to wait for something bad to happen. It can be in the bad parts of the city, the better parts, or in the country. Some of those vrazies scare me just as much as the supposedly bad people.cpa3485https://www.blogger.com/profile/00031439889267356735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-72830179312985924882009-10-25T11:53:09.358-07:002009-10-25T11:53:09.358-07:00Bob, thanks for this view of Vancouver. It seems ...Bob, thanks for this view of Vancouver. It seems that most big cities have those areas where "one should not go" - I know it is for Seattle. These "bad" areas tend to change address from time to time - it used to be First Avenue in Seattle, but now it's more like 2nd or 3rd. I guess in the far reaches of my mind I suspected the same for Vancouver, and I thank you for your honesty in showing this side. You still have one of the most beautiful cities in the world.Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02458096347718242672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-72145452473158217242009-10-24T23:42:15.177-07:002009-10-24T23:42:15.177-07:00Troubadour/Bradley:
I think you would be safe eno...<b>Troubadour/Bradley:</b><br /><br />I think you would be safe enough during the day, but night I would stay away. My car has been vandalized twice down in that area. I will park a mile away and walk into the area. Glad you made it out safely<br /><br /><b>Jack "r":</b><br /><br />Happily it happened during the "good" times. Your equipment would be harder to replace now. I had a $300. tripod stolen from my car. I checked the pawn shops in the area an hour later and luckily got to buy it back for <br />$40.<br /><br />Leslie and I were having a nice chat while you were having your beauty sleep.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-41440694653782525702009-10-24T03:40:26.107-07:002009-10-24T03:40:26.107-07:00Dear Bobsckoot:
The only time that Leslie and I w...Dear Bobsckoot:<br /><br />The only time that Leslie and I were ever robbed in a city, it was as guests of the best hotel in Montreal -- at the Quen Elizabeth - The Hotel. <br /><br />We had six thousand dollars worth of laptop computers stolen from a hotel office, while a hotel guard sat in a chair outside the door. <br /><br />And thre hotel management acted as if it was an everyday occurrence. Maybe it is in Montreal. <br /><br />Fondest regards,<br />Jack • reep • Toad<br />Twisted RoadsJack Riepehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531160098262862027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-16786968037153779712009-10-24T00:41:10.926-07:002009-10-24T00:41:10.926-07:00We had to cross Hastings early one morning for my ...We had to cross Hastings early one morning for my medical exam for my US immigration papers before heading to Montreal for my INS interview. We felt much safer walking down Rue Sainte-Catherine in Montreal at night than we did walking in Vancouver at 8am in the morning. 'Tis sad, I warn everyone visiting 'Canada' to avoid Main and Hastings. I am glad you brought attention and wrote about this part of Vancouver, but we've also enjoyed the great things you've written and photographed in your beautiful city too.Troubadourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567767701065756330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-38579076677313828452009-10-23T20:02:25.354-07:002009-10-23T20:02:25.354-07:00Jack "r":
I know that every city has un...<b>Jack "r":</b><br /><br />I know that every city has undesirable areas but you always want visitors to only view the good things in the hopes that they will come and visit. It's not easy to take pictures of the destitute mixed in with drug dealers who wish to remain anonymous<br /><br /><b>Mr Conchscooter:</b><br /><br />Glad to hear that Key West is one of the safest places to live if there is no corresponding area of competition. Hoping that you pass through Vancouver again soon. Your dinner is waiting<br /><br /><b>Jack "r":</b><br /><br />I am sure that Mr Conch has lots of stories to tell. It's just that he can't write about them in case Mrs Conch finds out<br /><br /><b>Mike:</b><br /><br />I think there are areas like this everywhere. They are working on more social housing for the un-employable so it is getting better. The street people are okay, it's the people that are into drugs that create the problems<br /><br /><b>Sharon:</b><br /><br />I got carried away. It was not my intention to offer any opinions but as I was commenting on the pictures, some words fell out onto my keyboard. It was really pouring the morning that I went down there and got soaked. I plan to go down there again on a rainless day as there are more photos to take. Come to Vancouver and I will take you to some out of the way places<br /><br /><b>Ms Marianne:</b><br /><br />My inlaw used to live in Berkeley. When we visited SF and came back over the Bay Bridge we went too far south into Oakland and didn't get a good feeling, but this was years ago during the time of the "Black Panthers"<br /><br /><b>Leslie:</b><br /><br />Was very nice to hear from you today, and wear our 2010 Olympic shirt. Bad areas are everywhere, not just limited to Vancouver. You just have to be aware of your surroundings when you travel and try to avoid themAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05258612401956399482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-77771884162463386742009-10-23T18:27:49.939-07:002009-10-23T18:27:49.939-07:00Bob,
I happen to really like Vancouver. I also ha...Bob,<br /><br />I happen to really like Vancouver. I also happen to know that what you describe is everywhere. And those folks that inhabit the streets are everywhere. And they come from everywhere. You see, I have a son who is a heroin addict. He's a trust fund kid who's blowing his inheritance on rehab.<br /><br />It happens.<br /><br />And I wore a Vancouver 2010 t-shirt on my run today.<br /><br />Best to you and your city.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431801942628526998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-24085898874306821142009-10-23T16:33:36.162-07:002009-10-23T16:33:36.162-07:00:( what a shame. it looks very much like oakland, ...:( what a shame. it looks very much like oakland, san francisco, stockton, modesto... its everywhere bobskoot. i fear it will continue as the population grows too.mq01https://www.blogger.com/profile/11742343758057005313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-132855953224431212009-10-23T13:33:29.983-07:002009-10-23T13:33:29.983-07:00Bobskoot,
I am one who would go directly there. I...Bobskoot,<br /><br />I am one who would go directly there. I would take a small rangefinder camera (I just bought a 1960ish one) and try to make myself as invisible as possible. But I would go without hesitation. <br /><br />As an ethnographer, these are the places I strive to understand, explore and definitely never avoid.<br /><br />What do you mean that you are not political? Your photo are replete with social and political commentary, which, personally, I think is a very good thing IMHO.Sojourner's Moto Taleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02235661849993752840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-83363959557867262192009-10-23T11:39:04.391-07:002009-10-23T11:39:04.391-07:00Watch "Intelligence" from Netflix. I tho...Watch "Intelligence" from Netflix. I thoroughly enjoyed both seasons. A kinder, gentler Soprano family north of the border.<br />It's just TV, it ain't real life but the characters are shaded all kinds of gray.Conchscooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08016331487463993200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-11352818965407710092009-10-22T22:34:40.579-07:002009-10-22T22:34:40.579-07:00Bob,
Good, honest post. I read your post this mor...Bob,<br /><br />Good, honest post. I read your post this morning while I was eating breakfast. I was going to comment then but I wanted to think about it for awhile. I agree with Mr. Riepe - "it's everywhere". The two pictures above "The Only" seafood place look exactly like the front of the Portland Rescue Mission. I could give you my take on the moral depravity of society but it would involve spiritual matters. There is hope though.<br /><br />One thing's for sure, reading this I'm never coming to Vancouver. No, that's not true. We really like Vancouver. It's the most cosmopolitan city we've ever visited. Nice people and lots to do there.<br /><br />Thanks Bob...Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11946652999166458805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-52528214218756355172009-10-22T14:52:01.614-07:002009-10-22T14:52:01.614-07:00Dear Conch Via Bobskoot:
I bet you have plenty of...Dear Conch Via Bobskoot:<br /><br />I bet you have plenty of stories like mine... Like sailing through storms... Riding in bandit-ridden hills... Trading gas for eggs and aspirin in Tierra Del Fuego. They just don't seem exciting to you, because you lived and didn't have your clothes burst into flames, or you didn't have to sneak out of the police station wearing the coroner's jacket. <br /><br />There are a million untold stories in the world every minute. I bet yours are the best. Were you ever on your boat, and rowed into shore to walk the dog... And he ran off into the bushes, and came back out with a severed hand? <br /><br />That's happend to 10 people I know. <br /><br />Fondest regards,<br />Jack • reep • Toad <br />Twisted RoadsJack Riepehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531160098262862027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-49539632190335304752009-10-22T11:07:32.250-07:002009-10-22T11:07:32.250-07:00Good stuff and worth reading. I have no equivalen...Good stuff and worth reading. I have no equivalent pictures from Key West though I have an essay planned for Saturday about Dangerous Bahama Village. I got a little ticked off when a rather superficial travel site started telling people Bahama Village at night is dangerous. I should redirect them here to see real danger. Maybe I will if I can figure out.<br />I have no stories like riepe (I never do) but I will say my wife and I took a drive into Jamaica once from our cruise ship dock and we decided that Jamaica is the only country either of us has ever been to, that is way outside our comfort zone. I have traveled across Africa and my wife has been all over South America to give you an idea. <br />We had a nice dinner in a brief visit to Vancouver once. It seemd okay...Conchscooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08016331487463993200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-34620555565423405542009-10-22T05:34:09.630-07:002009-10-22T05:34:09.630-07:00PS: I still think Vancouver is one of the most bea...PS: I still think Vancouver is one of the most beautiful cities in North America. I think it is even more beautiful than San Francisco, which I regard as the most delightful city in the United States. <br /><br />For the record, I was on a business trip to Los Angeles, attending an event at the convention center, which I could see from my hotel. I was going to walk to it one morning, with my name tag on my jacket. The doorman stopped me, and insisted I take a cab for my own safety. <br /><br />I was invited to a corporate party in New Orleans, held at the warehouse where all the Mardi Gras stuff was stored. I went outside to smoke a cigar with some friends, and a uniformed cop in a police car advised me not to step away from the building. I had a similar experience in London, where a "Bobby" escourted me back to an "Underground" station, after redirecting me to the proper stop for the museum I wanted to see. <br /><br />It's everywhere. Somehow, I thought Vancouver would have been spared. None of us will be spared anything. <br /><br />JR/twJack Riepehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531160098262862027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738356784230164028.post-24330758018246883712009-10-22T05:23:55.531-07:002009-10-22T05:23:55.531-07:00Dear Bobskoot:
I think it took more than a little...Dear Bobskoot:<br /><br />I think it took more than a little courage to post this essay this morning. Courage and honesty. The first time I ever visited Vancouver was on a business trip more than 20 years ago. I came away thinking it was easily the most beautiful city in North America. Each community seenmed to have a unique character of their own, but were tied together in a common theme. <br /><br />I have been there four or five times since. Thirteen years ago, I wandered through town in the company of my 13-year-old daughter. We wanted dungenes crab from a Chinese Restaurant. I had the cab driver let us out at a likely spot. My instructions to him were to return in two hours.<br /><br />We were done in 90 minutes, and decided to walk around. On the street, in broad daylight (about 2pm), I watched as a guy come out of a doorway behind us, exactly as his counterpart came out of another spider hole across the street. It was then I noticed the total absence of anyone else on the street. <br /><br />I said to Katherine, "You're going to have to make a run for it."<br /><br />She is a tall kid. She was all of 5'8" at 13 and growing like a weed. She had also just gotten her black belt in Karate. God bless her, she said to me, "I can take the one coming from across the street... But I'm just going to let him have it." <br /><br />The cab pulled up in that split second, and the driver threw open the front door. We were moving pronto... Looking back, I watched both of those guys return to their original spots. <br /><br />Every city has these places. If you were to visit here, I wouldn't even think of taking you to Philly. We'd just go up to New York. My daughter loves to bust my balls. She lives in Philly now. She carries mace in her pocket. I wish it was a Colt 45. <br /><br />Fondest regards,<br />Jack • reep • Toad<br />Twisted RoadsJack Riepehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531160098262862027noreply@blogger.com