Oh, Oh, the rain has arrived in full force

a day off from work and it decides to rain

and a lot of rain forecast for later in the day.   I had big plans for these vacation days.  A month ago I checked the long range forecast and it was supposed to be sunny and cool.  Then after I booked my time off the weather GODs decided to rain instead.  I was frantically getting Nu2Me ready for her first trip to Vancouver Island.  I installed the combo rack/top case bracket, bought a GIVI Blade 47L top case, order the RAM mounts for my GoProHD and GPS , but it was not to be

instead I decided to have a healthy breakfast at the local Golden Arches, I decided to go out instead of making breakfast at home and then I went over to EMS for a much needed Oil / Filter change.  Since I was staying in town, at least for today, I also booked an appointment to service my commuter car as it needed a full checkup, LOF, antifreeze & brake check.   The antifeeze is nearly 6 years old and I thought it should be change.  Also the front brakes were approx 30% pad life left when it was serviced in the Spring.  Good news, my antifreeze is good for 10 years, and my brakes still have 20% life left so I can defer this until "next time".  Oh, also tire rotation, but soon I will be installing my 4 snow tires for the Winter


It was a relaxing day not doing much of anything.  Before I left in the morning I dug out my air compressor and checked the tires on both of my bikes, Nu2Me and my 'Strom. They were both down a couple of pounds, nothing serious but it is better to be at the correct pressures.

I came home and fiddled around for a few hours until I decided to go for a ride, even though the rain was coming down harder than before. 





I decided to ride around a neighbourhood with tree-lined streets to show you some Autumn colours.  We don't have a lot of colour here being in the centre of the city and most of our trees are evergreen and during the Winter they just look dull and greyish.  You have to be careful not to slip on the fallen leaves.   I am having a minor problem with Picasa.  I am trying to learn how it works and I thought I had it figured out BUT it doesn't always work the way it is supposed to


For this post I decided to transfer the full resolution photos, straight out of the camera into a directory on my External Hard Drive.   Then I opened Picasa and because it only looks at the laptop drive, I have to go to another menu and "Add new Folder to Picasa".   Then  I  *star the ones I wish to use and then I "sync to web".   I sit back and let my laptop do the work and a few minutes later the circle has stopped turning.   The full resolutions photos have all been reduced to 2048 and added to my Picasa Web Album

Now I have a problem.  The first two photos (above) posted correctly.  I was able to use a pop up menu:  small, med, large, Xtra large, left centre right, etc.  BUT then when I added the next two photos  (#3 and #4), I could not get the pop up menu.  It would not display no matter what I did.  I tried to click on the photo and all I got was the "move" cursor so I deleted both of the several time and tried it again.  There was NO way that I could make them Extra Large, the posted in the size above, as displayed so I just added text on the side.   It is so frustrating why it doesn give me the pop up menu so I can select the size and placement options



I've got the same problem with this one, I cannot make it display larger than what it is.  Why is it I get the pop up menu sometimes and not other times ?

That's what happens when you give control to a program and you don't know what it is doing behind the scenes.

I don't think I have this problem with Photobucket, but I have to resize my photos first before I upload.

I have tried Flickr and when you select the HTML code you are given size options.  I'm still trying to decide what my future workflow will be and which services I should select.   It is my plan to try different methods for the next few posts and see what works.


I think I'm getting frustrated with the Picasa interface again.  It has automated features which don't work correctly.  Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.   This next photo was uploaded to Photobucket, I sized it before upload which is the same size I have always used.  I don't mind doing the resizing manually as I have always done it this way, and the photos always display the way I want.  There are no surprises . . .




You know that we are doing a construction project in our back yard.  It is now the rainy season and we have probably had 6 " of rain since last weekend.   Our yard is a mud bog right now and tonight is garbage night.  They have just delivered a new pile of dirt so they can fill in the drainage ditch.  The ground is very soft and waterlogged.   I do not have boots long enough as when you take a step your foot goes about a foot down into the ground, so I had to resort to the only shoes I know that can handle this task. 

Learning Picasa: attempt ONE

I am trying to learn a new way to post on my blog. Things don't seem to be working correctly as I am relying on the program to do what I want it to do. This is much different than manually placing all the text and words exactly where you want them positioned.  The photos are in no particular order as I tried to upload multiple images and post directly to Blogger, but it Published instead of being a Draft

When ever you work on a photo it changes position without warning.  You cannot be sure where it finally ends up

When we visited friends a couple of weeks ago during our Canadian Thanksgiving, the children were playing outside drawing their shapes onto the patio






Here was another friend for the day.  He lost his front leg a few years ago due to an accident and he is very friendly

I kind of like the way I can resize the photos and move them around and have text on either side.


 I finally found someone who dislikes shoes as much as myself, she was shoeless most of the afternoon, and remember that we are on a farm









Even the dog got his outline traced out on the ground








and then it eventually became a family affair with everyone chipping in
         

Of course all of the smaller images above can be clicked for a larger version.   Publishing the Starred items directly to Blogger doesn't seem to work very well, you have to fiddle a lot with placement and image sizes.  I thought this way would be faster but now I am going to try Karen's method

My first attempt at an embedded slide show: (sorry no music this time)

Video: On the Water

It occurred to me that I never linked my video from this post , and I thought that I had better do it before my photos disappeared from this August post.



I am not used to composing my posts in normal mode.  I have always used the HTML and manually inserted my images from an external image hosting site.

When I first started blogging, storing images was very limited but as time passed things got cheaper and now, image sites are very generous with the amount of space that they will allow for FREE.  Back then Blogger only allowed 300 megs of image storage so it was my thought to use Webshots as at that time it was the largest image site on the Web.

I was content to do things the OLD way which meant resizing all of my photos to around 2 mp and uploading them to WS and then linking them individually to my blog.  Of course, all of this took a tremendous amount of time.  I could never figure out how others could do their posts so fast, and even using a non-computer device such as an iPad or Tablet.   My typical post would easily take 3 hours or more.  By the time I reviewed my photos and did my resizing and uploading and then manually inserting the HTML code the night has gone.

Over time the Blogger interface got improved and then Google purchased Picasa for the image hosting and things became much simpler with this integration.  I was oblivious to all these improvements as I trudged along doing things the OLD way and not realizing all the time, savings that I could have enjoyed if I had just looked around, instead of keeping my head to the grindstone and trudging forward the OLD way doing things the only way I knew.

I was also oblivious to the fact that American Greeting Cards, the owner of Webshots had been thinking of selling Webshots a few years ago as it was costing them too much money to keep it running, due to archaic programming.  Had I known what I know now I could have changed my image host to Blogger a year or so ago.

About a year ago Blogger changed their policy to allow virtually unlimited image hosting within certain limits.   While all Google members receive 1 gig of image hosting images of 800x800 pix or less for regular members DO NOT COUNT towards their 1 gig.  Google+ members can upload images up to 2048x2048 or less, and these do NOT COUNT towards the 1 gig limit, so in effect as long as you are under these image sizes, you will have unlimited storage.

If I had know this before I could have hosted my images on Blogger and then more of my Blog could have been kept intact.  Thanks to Richard, and Karen I have discovered that I can upload images directly to Blogger and select the Xtra Large viewing option, which is not available if you post using HTML.  This will make life much simpler going forward.

I have tried to use Picasa and I am sure that my long distance tutor was getting frustrated trying to explain how the menus work.  Some things are just easier to visualize than to explain, but being 3,000 miles away isn't easy to get together, but I thank her for her determination to explain these simple things to someone who is resistant to change.

It's funny that I have been able to devote so much time towards my blog and doing things the Hard and long way, when a simple way is not so simple for me to understand.  I have to learn to let my computer do the work, rather than me.  I learned this simple fact tonight.  I also need to learn how to do collages and slide shows but that will be more frustration for another night.

I am now so happy that I can directly upload images to Blogger and have them display the size I want without much fussing around, and without having to externally hosting them

We happened to arrive at the Corvallis Fall
Festival just as they were closing down

Stress Relieved

Firstly, I wish to thank all of you for your help. I am less stressed tonight. I am still not happy with the fact that Webshots is shutting down their server, and my blog will be reduced to just TEXT for most of my posts before last week. There is nothing I can do and I have too many photos to even being the daunting task of uploading to a new host and re-linking the HTML codec

I spent quite a few hours during this past week trying to figure out how to backup my blog to either PDF or WORD Doc format but nothing worked. Then Doug suggested using Firefox and I tried to save my posts by month but there was a inconsistant problem with how many post entries would be displayed per page and it became a nightmare of checking each file trying to capture the "missing" ones. I also had some good suggestions from Bluekat but my software may be outdated and things didn's seem to save correctly

Richard suggested BlogBooker.com and up to yesterday it was the best solution, and although the formatting was not consistent it sort of worked and my whole blog got saved as one big 101meg file. At least I am able to view the photos along with the text. They do provide image file numbers and as I am a touch typist I could easily retype and find the original files on my hard drive if I wanted to spend the time.

The best solution came from David when he recommended Blog2Print.sharedbook.com Of course they have a 1,500 image limit per book and I don't know how many photos are posted so I first tried to "Print my whole blog" in one swoop. At least my computer was doing all this work while I sat and watched the progress icon . . . I stared and stared as nothing seemed to be happening and then I got the error notice that I had 5,625 images and to try to print in date ranges. So then I tried to print by year and another error message that I had 2,500 images and to select different date ranges. So I then broke my blog into 10 month segments and eventually I ended up with 6 BlogBooks in electronic format.

You have to look at their generated output and if you are satisfied with how it looks then you have to PAY up front before they email your PDF book. I did this 6 times and paid 6 times, but I am happy because I can eventually have this printed out and made into a coffee table book. The formating is superior to that of BlogBooker.com , for which I also submitted my donation


Sample Page from my PDF blog book

I am happy to have a copy of my work so all is not lost. And it will be nice to have a coffee table book printed out, eventually. The pages are numbered and there is an index and the page numbers are beside each blog subject

It would not be possible to generate a PDFblog book after the Webshots server shuts down as these services require the photo link to be active in order to obtain the image. That's why I was fretting so much about finding a solution right away.

Thank you all for your suggestions and help


White Rock, BC Cdn Thanksgiving Weekend

A couple of weeks ago we had a glorious sunny holiday weekend and we went to White Rock to enjoy the day. This photo is hosted on Photobucket. I tried to upload this same photo to Blogger but it would only display a quarter of this size even though I selected "Large" in the parameters so obviously I don't know how to do it. Perhaps you need to be a paid member to get larger display options. I know many of you just upload to blogger using the "insert image" icon but again I am software challenged. Perhaps I require a Picassa account, I don't know. I have always used external hosting with having to manually insert photos using HTML coding. I just don't know how all of you can upload using iPad and such. That's what takes me so long to work on a post. I have to upload images to a photo host after resizing them down from 16 MP down to say, 2000x1330. It just seems so simple for the rest of you while I struggle doing it the slow way


Just after sunset near Siwash Rock, Stanley Park

This was taken about a month ago an a warm late summer night.


Sunset at the same spot, mere minutes earlier

I am wondering how others can post photos at the size above using the blogger "Insert Image" link when my image can only display the size below, even after I select "Large"

It is so frustrating to view photos on blogs like this one where images fill the page, while I have to jump hoops to do the same thing using my manual time consuming procedure.



even this Horse is laughing at me . . .

No backup & I'm incompetent

I am aways so careful when it comes to backups of photos, but I did lose some a few years ago as I believe they were archived to DVDs and probably misplaced. My system is much simplier these days, I just keep them on portable Hard Drives but I have many. I have never had a backup for my blog. I never thought that my photo host would shut down


Fuzzy vision inspired by Martha

This morning I had to drive to Surrey for our weekly breakfast so I had time to comtemplate my predicament. I am sad, upset and I cannot figure out how to save my web pages. I am also anxious and hyperventilating over my ineptitude.

I have had some excellent suggestions from BlueKat and I have already tried her suggestions(s).

I have an older version of Word and I tried to save some pages and there was a block of recurring blackness covering my blog on random scattered places which covers the text and photos. So it doesn't work. I can't spend my working time working on this but I don't have a PDFwriter at home


Tears coming from the sky

Then Doug came up with an idea so I spent about 6 hours today trying to save my pages as HTML. But then I had a problem. I followed Bluekat's idea of displaying more pages per view and I happily went about my overwhelming chore of going to every month and saving my pages. Everything seemed to be going smoothly and I thought "what a piece of cake" this is.

but then when I checked, it wasn't saving 31 posts per page as I set in the settings section. There must be some sort of limitation as to how many pages that it saves as it is not consistent in what it does. Sometimes it saves 7 pages, sometimes 5 and sometimes 12, even though I set the default to show 31 pages.


Martha: this is our neighbourhood, we have no colour in our dull trees

So when I thought I had accomplished the impossible in short time, I had to do it all again cross-referencing what I had already done and saving each month in multiple files


we do have some tree-lined streets in the city

I am not sure if these HTML files will load by themselves or whether they have to search for links on the 'Net. Right now they display the images, but they may not later when Webshots turns their switch OFF on November 1st. I am fretting because I do not have the knowledge to save my pages and everything I do doesn't work. Time is ticking away and there is less than 3 weeks left before my photos disappear.


Our monsoon season has started. nearly 2" of rain today, and another 1" of rain and heavy winds tomorrow

I can't do any more. I am up against a brick wall. I don't have the software and I am not a computer Guru. I am not even sure that I managed to save everything. All I know is that this is giving me migraines, and I don't usually get headaches. Once November 1st rolls around I know I will be feeling better as it will be too late to do anything, but for now I am feeling that there is something I can still do to stop my impending disaster, but I am powerless to figure out what that is

So for now imagine that I have jumped out of an airplane, but don't have the skills to pull the Rip-cord

I have been using Photobucket for the past few posts. They have upgraded their software and it is much better than Webshots, but you get a lot of ads. I am not getting a good feeling and think that they may also change their focus. I am not getting a warm feeling . . .

I know nothing about programming or how to set up my own.com and I really don't want to waste anymore time at my stage in life. There are better things to do than to sit in front of a keyboard. I'd rather be riding someplace "where I have never been before". And hand my notes to my personal Clerk to deal with.


This is the best that I could come up with here in the heart of the City. We don't get the colours that you get in the EAST

I'm not sure I wish to invest my sweat and labour into Photobucket and have this same scenario happen a few years down the road. I would like to gravitate to a more permanent solution and have total control but without the headaches of having to learn programming.


My, how quickly our seasons are changing. Just a short few weeks ago we were feeling the heat of summer. I actually had to wear Jeans today instead of my trademark shorts, and a fleece jacket with rain liner



but it won't be much longer before I have to change out of my natural waterproof footwear and into something



with a bit more warmth

Autumn in English Bay

It was a slightly warm day at the beach in English Bay



There were lots of people walking about enjoying the last remnants of the season



I keep thinking about the empty beaches where Martha recently posted in Door County where they were deserted, so I wanted to show her how active we are here on the Wet Coast of British Columbia



It is difficult to find a place of solitude whether it be during the heat of summer or the chill of winter. Many residents reside in the condos and apartment buildings of the West End of Vancouver so they crave for the open spaces during periods of good weather.



If you are ever in the area, and you are in need of a snack, come and visit my favourite Hot Dog vendor.

Links will soon disappear, along with my life

I never gave it much thought. I have been getting popups about the new SMILE at Webshots. Thinking that this was just another gimmick, I dismissed it until the other day when Webshots stopped working. I was annoyed and thought that it was just maintenance time but later in the day things still didn’t work and I had a post to publish. So I had to gather all my photos, resize them and use my backup provider, Photobucket.

I have been a Webshots member since November 27, 2000



I have over 6,300 photos hosted with them



And during all this time I have amassed over half a million total views



Now I understand that this was a free service but I always thought that if they went to a pay system then I would have the option of coughing up the funds to continue to host them on Webshots. My first inkling of a HUGE problem was an email I received from DOUG . It took me a while to navigate the Webshots site, but essentially they have been sold.

Their business model will not include direct linking of photos, so basically when Webshots shuts down their server effective December 1st, 2012 all the links to all of my photos will disappear and all my blog entries will be reduced to just words.

There is no way I could reconstruct all the links to all my posts even if I were to upload my 6,300 photos to another hosting site. This situation is devastating for me as I have put a lot of effort and sweat into this blog and soon it will all be gone. The thought of all my work disappearing is making me sick

I started this blog on February 4th, 2008 and I have only received ONE comment on my first post. I actually tried to start a year earlier but I couldn't figure it out.

So if you are inclined now is the time for you to read my past posts and see how my style has changed over the years. (After December 1st there will be no photos as they will all be deleted)


Please be patient while I explore my photo hosting options


EDIT: -----------------------------------------------

You may wish to read some of the comments


http://blog.webshots.com/2012/10/3874/ LINK

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wscommunity/discuss/72157631739216316/ LINK

and this most positive explanation of what happened

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wscommunity/discuss/72157631725916517/ LINK

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving

Sorry for the late post. I host my photos using Webshots, but their site has been unable to generate my images all day and thumbnails are too small. I went out and checked again when I got home and still, their site is unable to generate my images, so I had to resize again and host on Photobucket, my backup provider


It was a great day for a drive. We are squeezing the last heat of summer and going for a topless ride in our 'Vette and decided to visit our friends in Maple Ridge. These are the same friends that we have gone with to Hawai'i the last two times we were there. Our plan was to enjoy the Autumn colours on the backroads and snap a few photos. Our mistake was stopping there first and we were coerced into staying and joining them for their family Thanksgiving dinner.



So for the next 8 hours we had lots of time to chat and get caught up with life



The whole family was in the midst of meal preparation so we joined in. This was the first time that we have ever had a turkey prepared and cooked this way. It was marinated in a brine solution and then put on the BBQ



a few hard wood chips were thrown in for good measure to give the turkey a nice smoked flavour



for the next few hours it was smothering in the heat and smoke



of couse we had to check its progress once in a while to make sure all was going to plan, and also to baste it with its own juices to keep it moist



each time we were careful to make sure it was covered with foil



eventually it was time to bring it out



and a master turkey carver was designated to "plate-up" the meat being careful to separate the white from the dark



It was hard work waiting for our turkey to be cooked to perfection and to keep the guests satisfied we were treated to a delicious appetizer of bacon, leek & apple topped puffed pastry to tease our stomaches, as well as an assortment of cheeses and cluten-free crackers

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to all from myself



and my new friend

A Quick 2 minute job

took over an hour and a half in the dark with a flashlight.

I don't have to tell you that it gets dark fast this time of year. I rushed home after work so I could work in the daylight to install a RAM mount U-bolt ball mount for my VideoCam

Last week I ordered some RAM mounts for Nu2me and I had them shipped to my work address



Tonight, the plan was to mount them onto my handlebars. I had an hour window of light so I quickly gathered my tools and moved my bikes out of their resting place and got down to business. Before I actually attach them to my handlebars I do mockups of where the best location would be. I held the U-bolt with my left hand, and my videocam in my right hand moving the mounts around to get the best aiming position. I want the camera to be in the wind and not behind the windshield. The U-bolt was hanging by friction on the handlebar when I put the camera down on the bench and then I heard a "clink" sound BUT I did not hear the corresponding "clank" sound of the U-bolt falling to the cement floor

The U-bolt was nowhere to be seen. I looked everywhere. I mean where could it have fallen. I grabbed my flashlight and started peering under the steering head, and then I saw the threaded end of the stainless U-bolt. It had fallen inside the bike, under the gas tank behind the wiring harness and there was no way to get my fingers in there to retreive it. I thought that if I removed some body panels I would have a better chance of grabbing it.

So to secure the bike, I decided to put it on the centre stand to make it more stable. That's when I heard another "clinking" sound. I stopped and grabbed my flashlight again trying to find it. I was shining it everywhere under the tank and it was nowhere to be seen. It had originally fallen onto a wiring harness, but it had fallen again from there to somewhere lower down.

The R1200R uses a telelever suspension and there is a shock/spring combo under the triple tree and I was afraid that this U-bolt may have jammed itself in there, or it may have jammbed if I rode the bike and tried to make a turn, which would not be a good situation. I thought that the best course of action would be to retrieve it. So with my toolkit out and an assortment of Torx bits I started removing plastic panels.

I was working in failing light and soon I had to work with my flashlight as time was ticking away. Sorry for lack of photos but I was more concerned with retrieving this small bit of metal, rather than documenting this unfortunate circumstance which has turned a quick job into a time consuming recovery



The U-bolt had fallen on top of the engine between some fins and I had to use a coat hanger to fish it out. Eventually I worked it out and installed the panels and got back to what I started an hour earlier, before this diversion



This is not the best angle to show you but I used two RAM arms connected with a double RAM ball, and a tripod plate so I could angle my GoProHD to the left of my windshield. My idea is to record video so no part of my bike is visible with the camera floating in space.



On Nu2me the windshield and headlight turns with the handlebars, so aiming the camera is easier as once in position nothing moves. On my Vstrom the windshield and headlights are fixed so when you mount a camera on the handlebars, it moves and you have to be careful that it doesn't hit anything when you turn.



Since there is not much handlebar space I had to put my RAM mount on the wrong side of the clutch reservoir so I bought the short RAM arm so that the longer RAM arm can aim to the left of the windscreen. I think the recording angle is going to be just right

So this is how a quick job turns into a labour intensive hour and a half


Facsimilie of the offending lost U-bolt

Swapping bikes

After breakfast last Saturday and a short ride with my riding buddy John (read about it here) I had some errands to do. I wanted to stop off at the BMW dealer to see what they had on sale and John needed a new pair of riding gloves.



I purposely rode "nu2me" to breakfast in Steveston as I was intending to stop off at the BMW dealer so I thought it would be in bad taste to ride my Suzuki there. When we arrived we see this Pink beauty. Somehow I am greatly attracted to Pink .

On my way home I also stopped at EMS to repay Ted for adjusting my foot brakes a couple of weeks ago



I often stop here on Saturday to chat with other riders and to pass some time. Today Ted didn't seem that busy and he told me he had time to do an oil change on my V-strom, so I headed home to swap bikes. It is not easy to swap bikes as I have to navigate my narrow pathway on the side of the house, then turn it around in a confined space in the carport so that it is facing the right way the next time I need to bring it out.



Like ships passing in the night I swap bikes. I put "nu2me" back where it belongs and bring my V-strom out to see the light of day. This meant navigating my narrow pathway to bring Nu2me to its parking spot, then bring out my Vstrom using this same narrow path. I have not ridden my 'Strom much the past 2 weeks as I was getting used to Nu2me. The first thing I notice is how difficult it is to push my Vstrom around, and also how top heavy it feels

I ride my Strom to EMS in anticipation of a fresh oil/filter change and park in nearly the same spot where I was just a half hour before. It was now busier as more bikes have arrived since I left. I wait around a bit then decide not to waste anymore of the nice sunshine and I get the bright idea to have a quick lunch and check tire prices at BaysidePerformance.ca Holy, Moly the prices seem very good so I call to see if the Michelin PR2/PR3's are in stock as I wasn't sure which tire I needed. After my quick nourishment I decide to ride my Vstrom over there to talk to Kevin and since he could install my new tires in the next hour I decide to "go for it". I ride home again to swap bikes (again)

This time I decide not to park my Vstrom right away, but I move Nu2me out to the street



and I ride back to BaysidePerformance.ca for Nu2me's new shoes. After I get home I decide to park Nu2me first and have to navigate my narrow path again. After she was tucked safely away and attached to her battery tender I decide to take my Vstrom out again for a short ride around my neighbourhood wearing my Old but new Modular helmet. About 5 years ago I bought a cheap modular helmet but never used it. It had been stored behind my sofa all this time gathering dust. I removed the plastic vinyl protector from the faceshield and put it on. It is more confining than my 3/4 helmet but it works fine with my glasses even though you lose a lot of peripheral vision. I must say that it gets hot in there and I have to leave the shield open "one click" to stop the condensation. It takes a bit of getting used to looking out of the smaller opening.

Eventually I navigate my narrow path again and soon both bikes are resting quietly contented to be attached to their respective battery tenders, waiting for their next adventure



The Cee Bailey windshield on Nu2me throws air right at my helmet because it is fixed into its position and the angle cannot be changed. It would get annoying at highway speeds. I read on the R1200 forums that this is a problem with many others so I thought that if I wore a full face modular helmet, that I could stop some of the wind. On my 3/4 helmet, rain blows from under the helmet letting water in, plus I notice that the modular helmet is much warmer, esp during the colder temperatures. So I plan to do more testing by wearing it a bit more before I form an opinion. Luckily my new 47 Ltr Blade topcase can hold two full sized helmets so I can switch back to my 3/4 helmet if I need to.

A week or so ago I attended our last bcsportbikes.com BBQ bike night for this riding season. You can read about it here, near the end. Here is the video




Pay close attention around 4:12 . . . and the winner at 4:32 . . .